Monday, February 28, 2011

Wrong Game Tetra

Welcome to the twenty-fifth installment of the EVE Blog Banter, the monthly EVE Online blogging extravaganza created by CrazyKinux. The EVE Blog Banter involves an enthusiastic group of gaming bloggers, a common topic within the realm of EVE Online, and a week or so to post articles pertaining to the said topic. The resulting articles can either be short or quite extensive, either funny or dead serious, but are always a great fun to read! Any questions about the EVE Blog Banter should be directed to Check for other EVE Blog Banter articles at the bottom of this post!

This month's topic comes to us from @Tetraetc - "Tetra's EVE Blog" - who asks: "Have Alliances and the sovereignty system limited the amount of PVP and RP potential in Null sec? Imagine a Null Sec where anyone could build outposts wherever. Would the reduction of the alliance game mechanic, and the removal of the sovereignty game mechanics (or the modifcation of it from Alliance level to Corp level for that matter) force more PVP into Null sec, or would giant power blocs like the NC still form themselves?"

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Of course power blocs would still form. They exist not because of game mechanics but because of a basic fact: 2 people often beat 1 person in a fight. Reduction of alliance game mechanics would complicate the matter but would not allow a null sec where anyone could build outposts wherever. That is practically a different game and not Eve Online.

As for the original question, alliances and the sov system have no limited the amount of PvP overall. They have changed it so it is large scale and utilizes larger capital and super cap fleets, but PvP is still there.

What Tetra is really saying in this question sounds like this:

" I don't like big blob warfare and I wish me and my small group could build and own an outpost in null sec without being part of a big alliance or power bloc. Then we could live there and engage in small gang PvP without worrying about defending our space from cap fleets. Don't you agree with me?"

No, Tetra, I do not.

As for roleplay potential, Eve Online itself and the players that enjoy it limit that. Blaming the sov mechanics is just being mean.

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    1. Anonymous2:28 pm

      To which I say, "go fly in NPC nullsec then." Syndicate, Curse, et al. have exactly what Tetra wants, it seems to me.

    2. lol Kirith. You are a hard hitter. I wonder if Tetra was in CVA?

    3. Sigh... im getting so much hate over this!

      Just to make it clear. I'm a low sec resident (once I get outside of this WH im stuck in.) About the only Null sec experience I have is getting Podded there once... and that my secret alt was looking at moving its corp into it somehow.

      Also... The topic itself was something I thought of after reading a forum post along the same lines. Only, this was some weird backwater forum... And everyone seemed to agree with him. I wanted to see what the community at large thought of it. And CK made me attribute my name to this.

      Although, on the note about CVA... that time I got podded in null sec was in providence when that hole shit storm was occurring... Or is it still occuring? I was confused over that mess...

      Now... it would appear that I was right in my thinking that this person was wrong.

    4. Tetra, I see what you were trying for, but it just didn't pan out. In addition to the 8 different questions you ask, the one on RP was kinda a red herring... But no hate! I'm just offering constructive criticism.

    5. Anonymous8:15 am

      Interesting topic but the issues raised seems to reflect a fear of the unknown more than anything. Sov holding nullsec is dangerous and ruthless. It takes time to learn the ropes and in doing so you will get podded. A lot. You can either keep at it until you get the succeed or whine that it needs to be changed.

      EVE is a sandbox, it can be unforgiving at times, its why I'm still playing.