Response to Percolation

I'm no Mord Fiddle, so when I make a post that I know might cause controversy I brace myself for people point out the obvious flaws of my reasoning regardless of how much thought I put into them.

So when Percolation responded very negatively to my post about the NC and Eve yesterday, I gave it a lot of thought to see how much merit his vigorous criticisms have. I decided to post my response as a full post instead of a comment reply.

3 things to your damn awful justification

1. All of 0.0 can be blue and use the same "we are not part of the same coalition we are just blue" logic, :facepalm: do you even get eve or 0.0?

Being blue to someone is not the same as working hand in hand in both offence and defence. Hence why alliances will sometimes 'temp blue' each other for a short period, even as short as a single battle. Just because AAA and CVA worked together once to catch some NCDOT supercarriers does not make them a coalition.

2. IF THE COALITION HAS AN ALLIANCE BLUE THEN THEY ARE PART OF THAT COALITION, no matter if you call yourself wank coalition, jesus tribe or MAGE wtf?

As per above, I disagree. Blue means good standings and in Eve that means we don't shoot at them. Cooperation for mutual defence is another level above that and cooperation for combined attack is yet another level above that. Equating 'blue' to 'coalition' is very simplistic in the complex interplay of eve politics.

3. NC is ALL those coalitions combined, they will never reset (much like they DIDNT in 2009) WHY? Because Vuk Lau is a RMT [edited] and his RL business needs protection.

 Yes, one man can control the actions of, what, 50,000 pilots? I have my doubts. Even if Vuk Lau was paying off alliance leaderships to protect his RMT business, I have no idea how such a conspiracy would survive even simple investigation by CCP internal affairs, something that had to happen when he was part of the CSM.

But let's live in your world where he is a RMT mastermind arranging alliance after alliance as a buffer and money laundering scheme around him. Alliances are notoriously fickle in leadership as people come and go from the game, to say they all will never reset seems, again, simplistic. I notice a running theme here.

By your logic everyone in the north is FREE and independent, anyone who has been playing for more than 2 years will know NC will NEVER split because NC splitting means NC dead and RL income will be screwed.

I suspect that if RL income is involved then people would be more likely to turn on each other, not band together. Overall, most people in Eve are good honest people who abhor RMT activities. The outrage against the massive botting in the game is evidence of that.

But let's say you're right. Let's say that the NC is held together by the strings of RMT protection and not mutual defence. Such a massive conspiracy is going to get the attention of CCP sooner or later and a massive ban will happen. Do you remember the moon goo scandal back in 2008? Might have been before your time junior, but CCP banned 70 accounts and deleted a bunch of ships and POSes. Sure, it took them long enough but once the conspiracy was discovered they acted with the hammer, tech II economy be damned. So if you're right, start banging on CCP's door with your evidence (lol!) and get that slow moving ban hammer moving, the sooner the better.

/sigh I will come back to your blog one year from now only to quote what I have said and list the additional 50 extra NC alliances you will see, who will call themselves "Delve Coalition" but will still be blue to NC AND will get help from NC during an invasion but will class themselves as independent.

I'll put it in my calendar. See you then!

Worst justification ever, oh and the only reason you are justifying NC is because deep down you know how bad the NAP situation is :sigh:

 Sigh indeed. I don't think I justified the existence of the NC, only that I felt it was not bad for Eve Online and that sooner or later it would collapse under its own weight.

BUT WAIT: There's more in a second comment.

PS. We left NC alone in 2009, THEY ONLY GOT BIGGER!!

Then IT came in 2010 and what did NC do? They tried to help the NAP train, as long as Vuk is making $$ out of EVE NC will NEVER split and you will see bad logic and reasons to why NC remains fat and bloated, like BFF propaganda etc

If NC is terribad and bloated and fat, etc, then shouldn't their enemies take to a smaller warfare apporach and attack the membership of the NC instead of the sov? Wouldn't that have more impact at tearing down Vuk Lau's empire rather than forcing the NC together with MAX DAMAGE campaigns? I think the failure here is not NC, its their enemies' thinking and strategy. I'm just saying.

See you in a year! Unless Eve is dead by then due to Vuk Lau.