tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post88045936430639351..comments2024-02-13T04:29:44.662-05:00Comments on Inner Sanctum of the Ninveah: Team BuildingKirith Kodachihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12322297953184168725noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-22186695852529220522014-05-02T18:47:58.566-04:002014-05-02T18:47:58.566-04:00@NoizyGamer: Seriously, you don't see that bot...@NoizyGamer: Seriously, you don't see that both areas, low sec and high sec, have been completely shafted by null sec whining and flooding us with tears?<br /><br />I used to make capitals one jump out of high sec a couple of years ago. I still sell capital BPC's I made in FW space. I do have some idea of the pain low sec is going to suffer, and it is unfair. Low sec is clearly a larger loser than high sec, because all low sec mfg is in deep trouble. But high sec has a tremendous amount to lose as well, and all of low sec's losses, and high sec's, end up in the pockets of a few cartel leaders. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05509895151523038252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-34249686869522559192014-05-01T19:26:56.733-04:002014-05-01T19:26:56.733-04:00Really Dinsdale, CCP puts in something to make sur...Really Dinsdale, CCP puts in something to make sure that the high sec industrialists will maintain an advantage over us in low sec and you're complaining that CCP isn't forcing you to leave high sec? Add in the 50% increase in the use of jump fuel and the big losers are low sec, not high. In fact, the figures on the use industrial facilities in high sec, combined with high sec probably having the greatest leverage in hiring teams, probably means a big nerf to low sec industry in relation to high.<br /><br />In other words, don't come onto the blogs of low sec residents crying. Quite frankly, I'm getting tired of those way better off than me whining and flooding us with tears.NoizyGamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315716516032999133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-3366217695501808562014-05-01T16:27:12.269-04:002014-05-01T16:27:12.269-04:00I'm curious how public all of this will be -- ...I'm curious how public all of this will be -- like, what's going on during the bidding process, who in your system is contributing, what the other competing systems are doing, etc. And then if your system wins the auction, who all's making use of the team and which of those helped win it for the system. <br /><br />I think there's the potential for some pretty interesting social aspects to evolve out of this, maybe even informal cartels in low and high sec.Suzariel Kel-Patenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09141394814063525048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-26591678369744412002014-05-01T12:28:16.283-04:002014-05-01T12:28:16.283-04:00The whole team thing is geared to hugely help the ...The whole team thing is geared to hugely help the null sec cartels, and no one else. High sec cannot limit who does what in a system, while the cartels will have extremely strict controls on who builds, what they build, where they build it, when, and how much. And no low sec group will want to broadcast what they are building, and more importantly, where.<br /><br />This whole mess was designed to enhance the null sec RMT streams at the expense of everyone else, and it will be highly successful at it. The ultimate question is how many subs will be lost over it. I really don't think the net loss will be anything over 1%, or about 1 employee.<br /><br />The cartels win again.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05509895151523038252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-48436640378530737792014-05-01T11:50:07.012-04:002014-05-01T11:50:07.012-04:00Until I see it advertised as being worked on and i...Until I see it advertised as being worked on and implemented in next patch, I try not to let those kind of promises influence my opinions. Things in game can be broken or liming along for years before being fixed/addressed. And CCP has made promises and came up short before as well.Kirith Kodachihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12322297953184168725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-27266932146634378662014-05-01T11:41:57.676-04:002014-05-01T11:41:57.676-04:00Read through CCP Soniclovers postings in the comme...Read through CCP Soniclovers postings in the comment thread. They are looking at allows PCs to create teams using PI or some other method. (He also hints that fixing Corp Roles is coming soon, which sounds like a fix for Outposts and POS code). Xmashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10512911190985990931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-14411702000710363092014-05-01T11:40:25.762-04:002014-05-01T11:40:25.762-04:00I like the "freeloading" wrinkle for hig...I like the "freeloading" wrinkle for high sec, but in null sec where stations/outposts can be locked it will be a non issue and low sec may not have the wherewithal to win auctions. A lot depends on team creation rates.Kirith Kodachihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12322297953184168725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-19068293420564716492014-05-01T11:32:05.915-04:002014-05-01T11:32:05.915-04:00Anyone can use the team. They have acknowledged t...Anyone can use the team. They have acknowledged that after the successful bid anyone in that system can use the team during the 28 days. There is no way around the freeloader problem unless they drop the per system aspect of the auction and then you will get either a personal, corp, alliance type system that will probably drive the bidding totally out of range for anyone small size. The freeloader problem probably actually helps anyone not doing tens of billions of ISK in industry per month.Ragellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10285176601838226959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-74058516033701875262014-05-01T10:13:03.734-04:002014-05-01T10:13:03.734-04:00I looked for anything to indicate a cap on how man...I looked for anything to indicate a cap on how many people in that system could book the team for jobs but couldn't find it. I guess if there are a ton of jobs running in the system the OTHER costs we heard about in a previous dev blog kick in, so that's a limiting factor. <br /><br />Sounds like they're aware of the potential for freeloading but aren't going to interfere with it unless they see abuse?Suzariel Kel-Patenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09141394814063525048noreply@blogger.com