tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post4210461335733111067..comments2024-02-13T04:29:44.662-05:00Comments on Inner Sanctum of the Ninveah: Thoughts On CertificatesKirith Kodachihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12322297953184168725noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-55008881164046844282008-11-19T19:17:00.000-05:002008-11-19T19:17:00.000-05:00The comment about EVE-Mon was spot on for me. I do...The comment about EVE-Mon was spot on for me. I don't/can't run the program, so the certificates system allows me to get an idea at a glance of where I am at and small things I can do to improve my abilities.<BR/><BR/>I also hope that the devs take note of what the veteran players are suggesting and tweak the certs to bring them more in line with real 'improved' or 'elite' skill proficiencies based on player experience.Leumashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04132124339444731481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-33505189536650397142008-11-19T14:27:00.000-05:002008-11-19T14:27:00.000-05:00From a newb perspective, the core certificates are...From a newb perspective, the core certificates are helpful to point out "essential" skills. I hope they continue to flesh out the cert system!Jagginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16227198127595838773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-87733170828453342262008-11-19T09:54:00.000-05:002008-11-19T09:54:00.000-05:00Gotta agree with the sentiment of it being vaguely...Gotta agree with the sentiment of it being vaguely useful for newbies. <BR/><BR/>But I have to admit that I will continue to actively discourage newbies from even thinking about looking at Certs for the foreseeable future. They're completely off the wall in a handful of cases, the nomenclature implies importance to things that are absolutely not important, and are misleading at best.<BR/><BR/>Trust me, you're better off with a pad of paper, a pencil, a sturdy eraser, and a good deal of time paging through the skills and asking questions of more advanced players.<BR/><BR/>Fly Safe <BR/><BR/>(I should really just get an ID, shouldn't I? >_>)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-65840610647619900132008-11-19T09:11:00.000-05:002008-11-19T09:11:00.000-05:00Some people think certs are moving EVE towards noo...Some people think certs are moving EVE towards noobification. I just think it's about organization and inter-skill interaction.<BR/><BR/>ATM my skills are mostly basic. with a handful of standard and one or two improved. Which is pretty pathetic.Bahamuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10317770019024827162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-62394634092932425872008-11-19T07:16:00.000-05:002008-11-19T07:16:00.000-05:00Anonymous: Certificates are private by default. No...Anonymous: Certificates are private by default. No one can see which ones you have unless you set them to public. Which you can do for some or all, at your whim. So the only folks susceptible to being spied on are the ones who have made their own info available.Carole Pivarnikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787775846290065794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-79166072790309936282008-11-19T06:17:00.000-05:002008-11-19T06:17:00.000-05:00@Mynxee: Yeah, my indy alt with ~30 million skill ...@Mynxee: Yeah, my indy alt with ~30 million skill points focused on non-combat related skills was also very certificate-poor compared to Kirith. But I think this first iteration of the system concentrated on the ship-damage-tank trinity and I hope more depth is added later on.<BR/><BR/>I also want to see some benefits to having hard to reach certificates someday. :)Kirith Kodachihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12322297953184168725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-43139460641942192672008-11-19T04:11:00.000-05:002008-11-19T04:11:00.000-05:00I agree, I think it is an excellent addition that ...I agree, I think it is an excellent addition that allows for greater visibility of the skill training process.<BR/><BR/>It is particularly helpful for those of us unaware of or unable to run the EVEMon utility. I doubt it is anywhere as useful as EVEMon but it is certainly a step forwards from having no skill planner available beyond the basic interface.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-5158446667665420742008-11-19T03:49:00.000-05:002008-11-19T03:49:00.000-05:00No more need for recruiters to go through your API...No more need for recruiters to go through your API, great day for spies =)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-81587122694088443762008-11-18T23:57:00.000-05:002008-11-18T23:57:00.000-05:00The certificates system is definitely a good idea ...The certificates system is definitely a good idea in the long run. Unfortunately it is just not as useful as it could because it is obviously not fully implemented yet.<BR/><BR/>Not sure if you have noticed, but a lot of higher proficiency certificates require tons of cross-faction or even cross-"profession" training which does not always make sense given the title of the certificate. There is also a lack of certificates related to capital ships and their associated skills.<BR/><BR/>Hopefully, one day soon, the system will be completely supported.<BR/><BR/>(Accidentally double posted)Mugenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01201882164096075605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-14974319866384507672008-11-18T23:55:00.000-05:002008-11-18T23:55:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mugenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01201882164096075605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-7120516539712712462008-11-18T22:38:00.000-05:002008-11-18T22:38:00.000-05:00Correction: I had 45 Certificates I could claim (n...Correction: I had 45 Certificates I could claim (not 45 skills)Carole Pivarnikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787775846290065794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-49669089017019429122008-11-18T22:37:00.000-05:002008-11-18T22:37:00.000-05:00I was disappointed to discover that my prober alt ...I was disappointed to discover that my prober alt with her almost perfect exploration-related science skills (all at 4 and 5, and with 6M in science) did not get some kind of Exploration related certificate :) And with 4.8M in drone skills, she got nothing better than a Standard. There were a couple of other discrepancies that seemed like random connections of skills (Caldari Frigate III gets her a Caldari Engineering certificate, the description of which indicates the pilot would be good at manufacturing. Huh?!)<BR/><BR/>BTW, I had 45 skills, 2 Elite, the rest mostly Standard, and a small handful of Basic. Given my very focused skills (mainly pvp, 124 known skills, 30 to level 5), that seemed more on target. <BR/><BR/>Maybe certificate assessment is a lot more difficult on characters with less focused or wider ranging skills like my prober alt. Anyway, I can just imagine the time that went into this complex beast, but it needs a lot more work to make real sense, in my opinion.Carole Pivarnikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787775846290065794noreply@blogger.com