tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post343577508369047030..comments2024-02-13T04:29:44.662-05:00Comments on Inner Sanctum of the Ninveah: Don't Buy Your Own PropagandaKirith Kodachihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12322297953184168725noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-70880356005683395462013-02-08T11:56:19.654-05:002013-02-08T11:56:19.654-05:00Here's a thought: don't sov grind your opp...Here's a thought: don't sov grind your opponent's entire space. It doesn't happen in the real world, and it shouldn't have to happen in Eve.<br /><br />Instead, CFC or HBC or whomever can decide to annex someone else's region, or constellation, or even just a key system. Don't make the downfall of an entire coalition your objective. You get your fights without months of sov grind. That's how it works IRL; countries fight over contested territories; they don't usually go for full genocide.Gernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12358332264347410489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-72454318084924347622013-02-07T20:14:13.981-05:002013-02-07T20:14:13.981-05:00How about you grind multiple regions in a war and ...How about you grind multiple regions in a war and enjoy the whole process. We don't exist for your entertainment, sorry brodachi.Powershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08207235332940546841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-45872867644427833442013-02-07T16:14:31.122-05:002013-02-07T16:14:31.122-05:00They're in Li3 Federation, my old alliance, wh...They're in Li3 Federation, my old alliance, which is in HBC. It's the alliance of the Lost in Eve podcast and is collecting podcasters the way PL collects FCs.Stabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08716211705647213383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-62794349021101342372013-02-07T16:01:07.951-05:002013-02-07T16:01:07.951-05:00The point is Wilhelm a CFC v HBC war would have mo...The point is Wilhelm a CFC v HBC war would have more ship v ship combat relative to the amount of structure grinding. So it's daft to say campaigns like Tribute or Esoteria which were all blueballing and structure grind are fine but a Great War would be horrible because proportionately there would be less structure shooting as you'd be fighting people who undock.Stabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08716211705647213383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-32779741341269244902013-02-07T15:58:09.195-05:002013-02-07T15:58:09.195-05:00There's a distinct disconnect sometimes betwee...There's a distinct disconnect sometimes between members of these Coalitions and the rest of Eve. Some viewpoints are so continuously circulated as true that people seem to just absorb them and hold them as "common sense." I suppose it is common sense in that it's held in common by everyone they talk about Eve to.<br /><br />It does make discussing the game quite hard sometimes as when one talks about a sandbox game that should suit diverse playstyles you get shouted down by fans of forced grouping pvp.Stabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08716211705647213383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-49916920080101436392013-02-07T15:53:29.647-05:002013-02-07T15:53:29.647-05:00Your hand waving dismissal seems at least as shall...Your hand waving dismissal seems at least as shallow as their acceptance of the sov grind theory.<br /><br />Yes, a lot of wars have gone by. The last year alone has seen several wars of conquest. And how many of them were a short, sharp conflict, followed by a cascade fail and an easy sov clean up? That certainly sounds like what happened with White Noise, Raiden, Nulli Secunda, and IRC.<br /><br />Meanwhile, the war with Northern Coalition, which did not have all that many systems or towers to deal with, dragged on for quite a while, to the point that people were pointing and shouting "Goon Fail!" because the CFC wasn't winning fast enough.<br /><br />Now, count all the systems and towers that represent the CFC or the HBC, assume neither will be a quick cascade fail, and then go back to your list of wars and tell me how many of them represented those sorts of numbers and that kind of commitment.<br /><br />Saying structure grinds were not a factor seems as silly as saying that it was the only factor.Wilhelm Arcturushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033496821708933394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-84445926741645488282013-02-07T15:30:15.557-05:002013-02-07T15:30:15.557-05:00IIRC, they were in HBC and CFC. IIRC, they were in HBC and CFC. Kirith Kodachihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12322297953184168725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-64145444086826592822013-02-07T15:28:11.340-05:002013-02-07T15:28:11.340-05:00To which CFC corporations do the hosts belong? To which CFC corporations do the hosts belong? Mord Fiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01734756410122516725noreply@blogger.com