tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post150290664416664565..comments2024-02-13T04:29:44.662-05:00Comments on Inner Sanctum of the Ninveah: Won't Someone Think of the Economy?!Kirith Kodachihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12322297953184168725noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-39625027632790872582014-12-23T09:25:34.902-05:002014-12-23T09:25:34.902-05:00I always thought PLEX was inspired by a rich Russ...I always thought PLEX was inspired by a rich Russian who wanted to spend in EVE, CCP created a conduit so he could legitimately Lei Merdeauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11527631621009879371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-29514109641719959362014-12-23T03:03:57.116-05:002014-12-23T03:03:57.116-05:00I can't help laughing when someone says "...I can't help laughing when someone says "but I'm necessary for the game economy". CCP has full control in-game, they could seed veldspar at NPCs if they want. No player activity is needed for ANYTHING in the game.<br /><br />Players are valued for only two things:<br />- they pay $15<br />- they provide content to other players, increasing their chance of staying and paying $12<br /><br />Botters and input broadcasters do neither.<br /><br />PS: extra-stupid version of the above is when one say "my PLEX-ed account is needed because someone pays $15 for it", when it's obvious that someone paid $15 for the 800M ISK he can get in Jita. CCP could just give trillions of ISK to an alt who buys PLEX and trash them and the paying player wouldn't even notice.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-54808861105305309342014-12-22T21:31:10.783-05:002014-12-22T21:31:10.783-05:00Technically, input broadcasting isn't the same...Technically, input broadcasting isn't the same as botting. However...<br /><br />If the same arguments are used to justify botting and input broadcasting...<br />And botting and input broadcasting break the same section of the EULA (6A3)...<br />And botting and input broadcasting have similar negative effects on the game...<br /><br />Then it's kind of hard to blame anyone for considering the two the same thing.<br /><br />I started playing just after Unholy Rage occurred in 2009 and the big complaint back then was about bots. Now, the big complaint is the massive ISBoxer-fueled mining fleets. And the fact that the proponents of input broadcasting are using the same arguments as botters did back in the day makes me laugh when people like Shadow get all indignant about botting and input broadcasting having the same penalty, even though they break the same rule.<br /><br />And I've listened to all of Shadow's appearances except for High Drag. He has just about convinced me I was right the first time and CCP should just ban Inner Space (the software that runs ISBoxer) altogether. I guess that will depend on how the input broadcasters behave in 2015.NoizyGamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315716516032999133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-47764366310495861492014-12-22T17:16:41.350-05:002014-12-22T17:16:41.350-05:00I have seen a video somewhere of massive mission f...I have seen a video somewhere of massive mission fleets done by people using ISBoxer. Think it was nightmares or tengus. I completely agree that it should be considered botting. <br /><br />One thing that comes to mind are suicide gank fleets in high sec would be really effective with ISBoxer. Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16000591104391468183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10989652.post-57133146661166738262014-12-22T15:46:27.528-05:002014-12-22T15:46:27.528-05:00"I would like to point out that multiboxing w..."I would like to point out that multiboxing without input broadcasting is LESS effective than one-pilot per ship"<br /><br />This part is important, and true. To your argument, I'd add that switching your brain from flying one type of ship to flying another takes some attention. You can't change from a tackle Loki with probes, for instance, to a DPS Talos immediately... there's a delay while you recall the current state of your ship, what's happening around you, and react accordingly. Then, you have to also remember what the other client is doing.<br /><br />There are many times I've lost my prober to rats on a gate because I was paying attention to my other character doing something mundane... and not even in combat!<br /><br />Multiboxing makes all of your accounts less effective compared to playing with a friend.Talvorian Dexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01349917611382684205noreply@blogger.com